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Vaccinating your new Puppy

Here in Georgia we breeders are allowed to give our own shots [with the exception of the rabies shot] and that often causes confusion with out of state puppy buyers [as not all states allow for breeders to do that].

I give a high titer 5-way combination puppy shot that covers Parvo Virus, Distemper, Adeno Virus I + II, and Parainfluenca.

We are in an area where Corona and Leptospirosis Virus is not an  issue,  therefore I don't inoculate against it. If you live in an area where either or both of these two viruses are a common occurrence, you should get the pup inoculated for it from your vet. Please be aware that the later two can cause severe allergic reactions in small breed puppies and give them only if they are truly necessary in your area. I would also wait until the pup is at least 4 months old before bringing out the big guns!

Age of Weaning dictates Shot Schedule

 I am an avid opponent to over- vaccinating my dogs, and I do not wean early. I am aware that some breeders that give their first parvo shots at 5 weeks and often yank the pups of mom at that age as well.

I would only consider giving  vaccinations this early, if we were in a high risk environment or have frequent outbreaks of parvo virus in our kennel, which fortunately - we do not. I don't expose our pups to visitors before they have been inoculated [I'm very picky this way, and rather lose a sale over this than put any or all of my babies at risk]!

 I'm also a late weaner - my pups generally stay on mom until they are 7 weeks old, sometimes longer if the pups are small and mom still has milk and looks great, and isn't yet getting antsy with the babysitting. Since I wean later than most breeders, the pups protection from mom's antibodies keep them safe, and there is no reason to give the first shot at 5 weeks.

First shots given here with us happen  when the pups are  7 weeks old, unless I have the odd litter that got weaned earlier than usual. The second shot is given at 10-11 weeks if the pups are still here. That is generally all I give, unless you request a third shot on a 14+ week or older pup, which I will do if you ask.

Shot #3 and/or #4

Depending on where you live and how exposed your puppy is to unknown dogs, two sets of shots is all s/he needs, unless you live in a high risk area over which you have no control.

* If you happen to live in an apartment complex, town house or condo row without individually fenced back yards, or common potty areas all dogs in the area use - you ought to consider letting your poodle puppy having a 3rd set of shots.

* If you frequent doggy parks, or often go walking in areas where many other dog owners take their dogs - you also should consider a 3rd set of shots. 

* If your pup goes to a pet sitter, dog walker or doggy daycare, a third set of vaccines are recommended.

* If you are traveling a lot with the dog or it gets frequently boarded, you ought to consider a 3rd set of shots.

Any situation where you do not control the environment your pup frequently gets exposed to - and where strange dogs come and go, which may possibly be sick or virus carriers - you should consider getting a 3rd set of shots for added protection.  I would however wait with said 3rd set of shots until the pup is close to 4 months of age. You should also get a rabies shot given by a vet when the pup is 4-5 months of age.

Bordatella or Kennel Cough

Bordatella = Kennel Cough - it is the same thing. I no longer give a bordatella vaccination.

I used to at the beginning up until my 5th year of breeding and we had kennel cough quite often, it just seemed to be one of those things when you have multiple dogs.

I'd vaccinate a litter - and 2-3 days later they'd start coughing, then another litter would start hacking and then another... I used to actually infect them with this virus myself - took me the longest time to figure that one out. I stopped giving this vaccine a long time ago - and guess what? We don't get kennel cough any longer!!!

Many veterinarian offices insist on your dog getting a Bordatella Vaccine in order to be seen, and most Dog Boarding and Daycare places do as well. I would recommend them in the second instance, but think it more of a money maker and lack of hygiene in the case of routine Bordatella Inhalations for vet visits. Bordatella is usually good for 6 months and then needs to be renewed.


What is the big deal with over-vaccination?

Here is a great summary of Adverse Reactions from Doctors Foster & Smith, and another one about How Vaccines Work.

Here is another page with multiple info links in regards to vaccines, side effects and reverse reactions.

You might also want to visit some discussion groups online that cover this subject - pls do your own added research to educate yourself! Your puppy will benefit from your knowledge!



Veterinarian View on Shots...

Many veterinarian clinics and offices recommend not only 3-4 sets of puppy shots, but also annual booster shots. Not only once, but year after year, after year after year.

Some vets insist on re-vaccinating a pup that has been correctly vaccinated by the breeder and will disregard the breeders health records provided to the puppy owner.

Please note: I always put the actual ampule stickers of the shots given on the pups dated health records. If your pup is current on shots, please do not allow a vet to bully you into giving additional shots too close to the most recent one!!! 

Did you know - most Rabies vaccines are 3 year vaccines, but many vets [and many municipalities and states] require for you to come in for an annual booster, in order to get a local dog tag?

Lifelong Immunity???

It is clinically proven that rabies immunity can last for the life of the pet after the initial shot has been given, if it was given at the right time [4-6 months or later, the later the better]. 

This can be confirmed with a titer test, and the vet [upon request by you] can provide you with a statement for your municipality that your pet is current on rabies immunity, without it actually receiving another rabies shot. Unfortunately the titer test is usually more expensive than the actual rabies shot, but for dogs with allergic reactions to rabies vaccines, it can be literally a life saver!

In most cases - once immunity is established, it is established for several years, if not for life [I'm not a vet so I can't back it up with studies of my own, but there are references to this all over the web if you look for them]. So why do many [not all, but many] veterinarians push for the annual booster and revaccinations?  

Read this article: Lifelong Immunity - why vets push back

Vet Math...

Well - let's do the math. Let's say this is a small vet office that sees only 10 pets a day that have shots included in their annual maintenance. I'm going to give a range of prices here, as they tend to vary from location [state to state] and also from rural to city areas - you know what you pay, so run the figures with your actual costs.

Office Visit: $35-60

Bordatella [Kennel Cough - some vets insist that in order the pet can be seen, it must have a current bordatella inoculation] $10-15

annual 5 way booster shot: $14-22+

annual 7 way booster shot: $25-45+ [7+8 ways are considerably more expensive than 5 ways]

Rabies: $14-20+

Bottom line - just for a quick stop by to get updated on shots: $75-140+ per pet - multiply this by 10 visits a day times 6 days/week = $4500-8400 - mostly pure revenue, as the cost of the actual shots is considerably less than charged. For most veterinarian offices - vaccines are their bread + butter and meet their office expenses and salaries paid for their employees. In larger cities, with multiple vets in one clinic, they may see as many as 30-40 or more daily visits for inoculations - you do the math!

I cannot tell you how many times I have sat in the waiting room of my vet and seen pets whisked through just for an update on shots, without an appointment. They went straight through to the back and came right back out, worked in between actual appointments, or dropped off in the morning by mom or dad on the way to work, and picked up after work again - bread  and butter alright!

Do some research on your own and make your own decisions in assessing what is necessary in regards to the risk level of exposure for your new baby! Actually read about the increased cancer dangers and other side effects of over-vaccinations before you make a decision and then look at your local environment as well!!!